[The episode is in Finnish] How should the spatial design of care homes take account for incontinence pads? How does the spatial design shape continence care? How could innovations in the field of construction business contribute to sustainable continence care? The guest in this episode is Maarit Kokkonen, the marketing and communication director from the construction company Sikla. Editing: Timo Uotinen (The recording has been made with both the speakers wearing a mask, which may have an impact on the sound quality.)